I am Joseph Atkins, webmaster and editor of the Gay Dating Blog. Our blog focuses on providing dating tips and advice to gay singles. In light of the pending Supreme Court decision on the constitutionality of gay marriage, we have compiled a list of our favorite 100 marriage equality bloggers. I thought you and your site’s audience might be interested in checking it out:
If you do find this list to be a good resource, might you be able to link to it from your blog? Let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thanks, Joseph
My reply.
Dear Joseph,
Did you actually read my blog before you sent your email?
Statement from the gathering of
Church of Scotland Evangelicals
Perth Letham St Marks
14 June 2013
Press Release
Many evangelicals within the Church of Scotland are deeply concerned about the current crisis over the ordination and induction of those in same-sex civil partnerships. Some have left the Kirk and others are considering doing so.
Today in Perth there was a large gathering of 350 evangelicals from the Church of Scotland (ministers, elders and members). The result of this was the formation of a network of evangelicals who have made the clear decision to remain in the Church of Scotland and to work for its reformation and renewal. We believe that the Church of Scotland remains an important vehicle for reaching the whole population of Scotland with the Gospel and, despite recent decisions, believe that God is still at work among us. We also believe that we can remain with integrity.
We urge others to join with us and to remain in the Church of Scotland, as we seek to restore and rebuild our Church.
Our vision for this network of evangelicals within the Kirk will be developed over the next few months.
On behalf of the Church of Scotland Evangelical Network
Rev Professor Andrew McGowan 01463 238770
Rev Jim Stewart 01738 624167
The Bishop of Leicester has tabled (in his name or together with others) the following amendments to the Same-Sex Marriage Bill.
Insert the following new Clause—
“Conscientious objection
(1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3), no registrar shall be under any duty, whether by contract or by any statutory or other legal requirement, to conduct, be present at, carry out, participate in, or consent to the taking place of, a relevant marriage ceremony to which he has a conscientious objection.
(2) Nothing in subsection (1) shall affect the duty of each registration authority to ensure that there is a sufficient number of relevant marriage registrars for its area to carry out in that area the functions of relevant marriage registrars.
(3) The conscientious objection must be based on a sincerely held religious or other belief.
(4) In any legal proceedings the burden of proof of conscientious objection shall rest on the person claiming to rely on it.”
This amendment protects registrars from being dismissed because they refuse to conduct a same-sex civil wedding.
Insert the following new Clause—
“Equality Act 2010 In the Equality Act 2010, after section 212, insert—
“212A Expression of opinion or belief as to marriage
For the purposes of this Act, the expression by a person of the opinion or belief that marriage is the union of one man with one woman does not of itself amount to discrimination against or harassment of another.””
This amendment enshrines in law the freedom to believe that marriage should only be between a man and a woman. It effectively makes it a protected belief – you can’t argue someone is “anti-equality” for holding or pronouncing this belief. The Bishop of Guildford has moved (with others) the following amendment.
Page 26, line 32, leave out paragraph 2
which removes the second of these two clauses.
Part 2 Presumption on birth of child to married woman
Common law presumption
2(1)Section 11 does not extend the common law presumption that a child born to a woman during her marriage is also the child of her husband.
(2)Accordingly, where a child is born to a woman during her marriage to another woman, that presumption is of no relevance to the question of who the child’s parents are.
This is a very clever amendment. It means that the law must have regard to who the father of a child is when it is born into a female same-sex marriage. This is clearly connected to the notion expressed by the Bishop of Leicester after the Second Reading that the Bill must try to reflect the goods of biological kinship. In a sense, this amendment means that it cannot automatically be argued that such a child’s parents are the two wives in the marriage.
Saying Goodbye is a superb charity that each year organises a whole series of services up and down the country in Cathedrals. They are an opportunity for families who have lost children in miscarriage, stillbirth or neo-natal and other infant death to come together and grieve corporately. As many of you know, our second son Zachary was stillborn after being diagnosed in utero with Edwards Syndrome (Trisomy 18). We’ve shared some of our story and reflections on this site.
On top of the services Saying Goodbye try to support families who suffer the loss of a child. It’s vital and important work, but so often we don’t hear about it. As we were public and open about our loss we discovered people literally coming out of the woodwork to tell us their story of pain and infant death. Over one in five pregnancies end in child death through miscarriage, still-birth or complications after birth and very often parents and families find it very hard to grieve their loss in a culture that encourages them to “move on”.
So, it is an absolute privilege for me next month to be able to share a little of my story and how we found God brought us through undoubtedly the darkest moment of our marriage. Please pray for me as I find the right words to share with those of faith and none as we gather in Canterbury Cathedral to once again say goodbye to the children we loved and lost.
There’s been a lot of nonsense written about what the statement from the Bishop of Leicester following the Second Reading in the Lords of the Same-Sex Marriage Bill actually means, chiefly down to the spin that the Telegraph put on it. However, if you read the statement carefully you can see that the Church of England has not surrendered on the Bill and in fact may very well continue to oppose it in Committee stage and at a Third Reading.
Let’s read what the Bishop actually wrote, not what others are implying he wrote.
Both Houses of Parliament have now expressed a clear view by large majorities on the principle that there should be legislation to enable same-sex marriages to take place in England and Wales.
It is now the duty and responsibility of the Bishops who sit in the House of Lords to recognise the implications of this decision and to join with other Members in the task of considering how this legislation can “.
Is this a “surrender”? Hardly. It’s simply a statement of the fact that both Houses have voted by large majorities to support the Bill. But the use of the word “principle” is very interesting, especially in the light of what may yet happen in the Lords. The principle of the Bill – that same-sex couples should be able to marry – has been broadly agreed by Parliament, but despite this there is a clear need to see how the Bill can “be put into better shape”. That implies that there are aspects of the Bill that are poorly drafted or have dangerous implications, and these still need to be addressed.
The concerns of many in the Church, and in the other denominations and faiths, about the wisdom of such a move have been expressed clearly and consistently in the Parliamentary debate.
So the Bishop indicates that the concerns are valid, are easy to understand and that Parliament cannot argue it has not heard them or does not need to engage with them.
For the Bishops the issue now is not primarily one of protections and exemptions for people of faith, important though it is to get that right, not least where teaching in schools and freedom of speech are concerned.
The Bill now requires improvement in a number of other key respects, including in its approach to the question of fidelity in marriage and the rights of children. If this Bill is to become law, it is crucial that marriage as newly defined is equipped to carry within it as many as possible of the virtues of the understanding of marriage it will replace.
The second paragraph here is key. The issues around consummation, adultery, defining parenthood (biological and accidental) through marriage need to be faced and dealt with. In these two sentences the Bishop of Leicester lays down a very clear marker that the Church’s understanding of marriage is still rooted in the Biblical teaching of matrimony as a procreative union and that the new definition of marriage that is proposed by the Government destroys that notion. The use of the word “virtues” is very clever, because by indicating that the new marriage definition should contain within it “as many as possible of the virtues of the understanding of marriage it will replace”, the Bishop clearly argues that the new definition does not at present uphold as many virtues as the current definition. This is an incredibly clever way of saying “Gender-neutral marriage is a really poor moral vehicle for our society”.
And note the first paragraph – “the issue now is not primarily one of protections and exemptions for people of faith, important though it is to get that right”. This is not saying that issues of freedom of conscience are going to be ignored. Rather, it is saying that these issues will be explored at Committee Stage, but that as well as this the House of Bishops is also going to turn its attention to highlighting the issues around removing the procreative assumption from marriage.
And why would it seek to do that if it didn’t think it had some good grounds to challenge the Bill on these matters?
Remember what the Bishop said in his speech to the Lords.
In deciding whether to give this Bill a Second Reading, I have to ask myself several questions. Is it clear that it will produce public goods for our society that outweigh the loss of understanding of marriage as we have known it? Has the debate in the country and in Parliament been conducted in a way that will enable our society to adapt wisely to a fundamental social change? At a time of extreme social pressure, is this innovation likely to create a more cohesive, settled and unified society? Lastly, at this stage, is it appropriate to frustrate the clear will of the Commons on this Bill?
I have concluded that the answer to all these questions must be no and therefore, if it is the unusual intention of this House to divide at Second Reading, I shall have no alternative but to abstain.
So the position of the Bishop is (i) the Bill does not produce public goods for society that outweigh what is lost by changing the definition of marriage, (ii) that debate has not been undertaken in society on this Bill in a manner that means as a collective whole we have truly contemplated what this means for us as a nation, (iii) that the Bill does nothing for social cohesion (and indeed may even damage it). And on that basis he couldn’t support it at the Second Reading were there a division.
And the last sentence of the first paragraph is the best gem of all.
Lastly, at this stage, is it appropriate to frustrate the clear will of the Commons on this Bill?
One does not suggest that it is inappropriate to frustrate the will of the Commons “at this stage” if one cannot contemplate the possibility of voting down the Commons’ proposal at any particular stage.
Rather than signalling a surrender, it seems to me that the Bishop’s statement on behalf of the House of Bishops in the Lords indicates that the Lords Spiritual are preparing to pull up their sleeves and get stuck in. I would anticipate a number of interventions during the Committee and Report stages and the very real possibility of a collective No vote at the Third Reading if the Bill remains the legal morass that it currently is.
Aber mit der Heimat
geht man immer herum,
durch die Welt,
dort und dort
Peter Handke
No one could describe
the Word of the Father;
but when He took flesh from you, O Theotokos,
He consented to be described, and restored the fallen image to its former beauty.
We confess and proclaim our salvation in word and image.
Kontakion of the Triumph of Orthodoxy
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4th Week after Trinity
Almighty God,
you have broken the tyranny of sin
and have sent the Spirit of your Son into our hearts
whereby we call you Father:
give us grace to dedicate our freedom to your service,
that we and all creation may be brought
to the glorious liberty of the children of God;
through Jesus Christ your Son our Lord,
who is alive and reigns with you,
in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
one God, now and for ever.
God’s Word
Commit your work to the LORD, and your plans will be established. (Proverbs 16:3, ESV)